1999 Ford Expedition 4x4 trans & flex plaet question

[Budnicks]

It's not mine 1st off it's my nephews
1999 4x4 4.6ltr Auto Expedition

Sorry in advance for a couple of stupid question !!

1st off what freaken' trans is it AODE ? 4R70W ? 4R100 ?
I see all three listed

also what is the crankshaft bolt pattern for the flex-plate 8 or 6 bolt
I see both patterns listed,
I figured it goes by the trans style,
I don't know Ford stuff very well, especially with the modular engines
past like 1979-ish

he's replacing the engine, too many miles
& a blown head-gasket & oil in the radiator issues

the place he's getting the engine from asked what crank 6 or 8 bolt
he called me, I'm the only on he knows that has mechanical knowledge,
mines mostly in Mopar & Chevy/GM stuff, not been a big Ford guy, for decades now...LOL

any help would be great,
any steering me to where to look would be great also

 

[Polara_500]

No guarantee what's in it until you pull the motor and peel away enough to see the end of the crank. That's my number one pet peeve with FoMoCo.

 

[Budnicks]

No guarantee what's in it until you pull the motor and peel away enough to see the end of the crank. That's my number one pet peeve with FoMoCo.

Thanks, for a quick get back to me...
I basically got the same answer from the Ford Dealership,
he said he's clueless basically too

kind of makes no logical sense,
it is what it is, not judging just wanted to try to help, if I could...

seems a bit lame they don't do some sort of "easy identification"
or go by options or something, vin # etc., HD or light duty etc.
it does have a tow package, if that makes any difference, ???
I'm baffled can't find any way to tell before taking it apart...LOL

is there any specific casting #'s or something
that might steer me in the proper direction

the engine is in Sacramento area they will ship it the 200 mile north,
he's going down to the Recycle yard & pick it up instead, he lives close to it,
than take it north, {hassles of course}
no problem but really they would like to have the correct crank bolt pattern
6 or 8 before they ship/take it out of inventory too
& for the proper flex-plate, TC fit so not to add to the costs for my Nephew
he's not a mechanic, long drawn out story involved...

It's not here or I'd look & try to identify it, it's 200 miles away too,
up in Redbluff at my sisters ranch, she's no help {hell he's barely any help}
he lives in Marysville some 200 mile south also of where it is,
he's going up there today...
I told him to pull the dust cover/inspection plate off the trans
maybe he can tell by that...

 

[Polara_500]

Sorry, man - that's the price for putting up with Ford. They're just great until they break..........

 

[Budnicks]

That's not what I needed to hear, BUT; it's not mine,
so no sweat off mine, he he ha ha....

Thanks again Polara_500

 

[LocuMob]

If only you could telepathically let him know what to do, he'd bring the right engine, without hassles. Hope it goes smoothly.

 

[Budnicks]

Sorry, man - that's the price for putting up with Ford. They're just great until they break..........

Yeah I also own a
2002 f-350 4x4 extended cab
7.3ltr Power Stroke dually with a manual trans,
been pretty good to me, had a few issues,
fuel system/injector tube leaking into the cooling system
PITA & turbo pipe cracking, regular glitches or regular problems,
also a clutch slave cylinder failed up in Tahoe, only 50k miles or so IIRC
at an inopportune time to say the least, easy enough fix but a PITA nonetheless...

Very expensive parts & repair costs on that thing...
I do it all myself too, don't trust the dealership, a bunch of crooks IMO...
It just turned over 100k miles too,
most the stuff happened at about 65k-75k mile,
I hope that doesn't mean @ 130k-150k it does the same things....LOL

 

[Budnicks]

If only you could telepathically let him know what to do, he'd bring the right engine, without hassles. Hope it goes smoothly.

Yeah OR only if I could get tellaported {beam me up Scotty}
to Redbluff & back to Marysville, to the recycle yard & my place in Sonora,
that'd solve all his/my travel issues, not really do me any good thou,
he'd still be bugging me for the help, I gladly will assist him, but he needs to learn to,
I'll still tell him what to do, that way so he gets hands on experience, he's a smart kid,
{well he's 39, he's a kid to me} he can figure a bunch of stuff out with a bit of guidance...LOL

 

[7mopar]

This is of the same engine family as the 5.4 in my 99 E350.
The oil in the radiator coolant could be as simple as a bad oil cooler. The cooler is in the lower radiator hose if it has one.
I have no idea about the rest.
From what research I had done they say not to give any of the old engine up till the new one is in and running.

 

[Budnicks]

This is of the same engine family as the 5.4 in my 99 E350.
The oil in the radiator coolant could be as simple as a bad oil cooler. The cooler is in the lower radiator hose if it has one.
I have no idea about the rest.
From what research I had done they say not to give any of the old engine up till the new one is in and running.

Yeah thanks, I'll tell him to check that out too...
Seems the engineering on this thing, is for lack of a better term "stupid" (poor),
it's like they engineered it to take the engine out, for 1/2 of it's issues,
not very serviceable, bad plug design too, anyway,
maybe it's for the service writers & dealership shop income generation...LOL
I've been around the Automotive dealership arena for 30+ years now,
albeit I'm in the facility mgnt. maintenance end thou,
but I'm still really familiar with the ins & outs
&/or service & corp. mother-ship warrantee "parts replacers" practices etc....